<p>I'm opening this thread based off a discussion that was being had on the Jeremy Crane forum. Essentialy, any idea about who will be famine and Conquest, and the possibilty of Brooks being one of them
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<p>I think you pretty much laid out what the foundation must be if Andy were to become Famine, and i totally agree there. But the real mystery to me is Conquest. It could be possible that the human incaration of Conquest died in the past, that could leave open alot of options as to who Moloch will take. It was clear that Luke was tramatuized, but I can't see him being so tramatuized that Moloch could easily break him. And, that would mean that someone bore witness before Ichabod and Abbie, so that's another hole in the possiblity of a new human form. But a though just occured to me. What if I (Conquest) never acutally had a human form, but was instead still a spirit, waiting  for a proper human host. What do you think?
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<p>Possibly. I guess that could work but does that mean that Abraham and Jeremy are merely possessed by spirits and have lost their own free will? If so, then does that leave the possibility of them being "sanctified" from their evil and become good again? (of course not Abraham because if he was possessed by a spirit and then said spirit left his body, nothing would be keeping him alive) Any thoughts?
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<p>Sorry it has taken so long for me to reply, i have been relatively Wifi free for a good deal of time and needed to catch up on alot. It doesn't nessacarily mean that they have no free will. Moloch has intervened when Abraham has gone out of line, remember? Andy was made by Moloch to secure Death in that scene in Necromancer. Andy said "No! You Can't! The master forbids it!" right before Abraham put Ichabod down for good. I was trying insuiate that taking on the body of a horseman is like taking The Miracle(I can't spell the proper name) in the show Arrow. It is a power, but doesn't totally control you. You become a vessel, yet still have control over your body. Also, i think that they (death and war) could be scantified, but it is an unlikely probability. Thoughts?
</p><p>P.S.: Fox really needs to read this Wiki, or hire you to come up with plotlines.
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<p>Well, I am rather flattered by your last comment as I am thinking of a career in writing either for television, movies, and/or novels. I can see that point about how they are distorted and twisted but still maintain some type of control over themselves. But this in itself brings up the question that can Death remain alive without such force, or alive as he is now, or will he just crumble and die? Also, I'm pretty sure it's spelled Mirakuru. But to go a little off topic for a moment about that scene you mentioned from Necromancer, I feel as though Ichabod has a larger role in Moloch's plan perhaps being forced to or unwittingly releasing Moloch onto Sleepy Hollow. Going off that point, it brings up possible evidence for such a force as Moloch could easily raise Conquest and Famine and start the apocalypse while Ichabod is buried and Abbie is in Purgatory yet the fact that he won't (it's obvious he won't otherwise the show would be too short) either brings up the idea that it's hard to find a horsemen perhaps using said force or Ichabod and/or Abbie still have a role in his plan. Thoughts?
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<p>Following up on your note on the scene from Necromancer, it would certianly explain why Moloch stopped Abraham from exacting his revenge. In addition, i also think that Moloch needs something more to break the next potential "host". I think that i've got it. With Abbie and Crane out of the way, Moloch thinks that he is safe to continue with the resurrection of the Famine and myself(Conquest). He could have trapped Abbie as a prize for ethier Andy or Luke, much like Katrina was a prize for Abraham. But, one of them escapes, frees the other, and started the battle again. He put them away becuase he already has two men for the Miakuru type analogy. Thoughts?
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<div class="quote"><i>Horseman of Conquest wrote: But, one of them escapes, frees the other, and started the battle again. </i></div>
<p>I'm not quite sure what you meant by this but I think it's not physical requirements but psychological should there be any as he needs a way to control them while also giving them the satisfaction and revenge they crave. Thoughts?
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<div class="quote"><i>The 5th Horseman wrote: <div class="quote">Horseman of Conquest wrote: But, one of them escapes, frees the other, and started the battle again. </i></div> I'm not quite sure what you meant by this but I think it's not physical requirements but psychological should there be any as he needs a way to control them while also giving them the satisfaction and revenge they crave. Thoughts?
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<p>What i meant by this was that ethier Abbie or Crane escape from their prisons and free the other to start the war against Moloch. That praticular had to do with the ending to the finale, not who would be the next horseman.Â
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<p>Ah well if that does happen, Crane will most likely free Abbie as it seems a lot easier to dig yourself out of the ground than to escape Purgatory.
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<div class="quote"><i>The 5th Horseman wrote: Ah well if that does happen, Crane will most likely free Abbie as it seems a lot easier to dig yourself out of the ground than to escape Purgatory.</i></div>
<p>True dat. But to get back pn topic, do you think that there could be any other options besides Luke and Andy to become the horseman?
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<p>Currently, no. But there may be some character who hasn't been introduced yet who may become a horseman later but out of all the known characters, only Luke and Andy seem like the most possible unless there's like some hidden truth about some other character.
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